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Re: What's up with the outfit design? Pauldrons, tassets, and faulds keep being thrown on everything
Please, please get rid of those and give us the option to hide any armour piece. I don't care if trolls will run around naked, I want to be able to hide my gloves and make dresses by combining the motifs I've been collecting.
Re: Vengeance 4 loadouts and perks
This is another huge red flag that Vengeance isn’t a performance test — it’s being built as a permanent game mode. You don’t create full archetypes with perks, penalties, and polished UI for testing; this is the design direction.
And that means the end of real PvP is here. Instead of fixing performance and balancing the sandbox we’ve all invested in, ZOS is replacing it with prefabricated loadouts that kill build diversity and creativity. Vengeance will be the new future, and Cyrodiil will be left to rot.
And that means the end of real PvP is here. Instead of fixing performance and balancing the sandbox we’ve all invested in, ZOS is replacing it with prefabricated loadouts that kill build diversity and creativity. Vengeance will be the new future, and Cyrodiil will be left to rot.
Re: Update 48 Combat/Balancing Changes
MincMincMinc wrote: »tomofhyrule wrote: »I hear a lot of noise about GW2. It’s probably not for me because I’m in ESO because of the TES part, and I’ve been spending my time back in Skyrim and BG3, but I do find it interesting at the number of ESO players jumping to GW2.
There's just as much noise in the GW2 forums about combat balance and PvP vs PvE priority as there is in the ESO forums.
Is it really still surprising to people that a 300 employee company suffocated for years by corporate quotas struggles to satisfy 10k player opinions? People are always going to complain of course, its just the nature of it all.
ESO is in the position where we went for years and years of just ballooning the game up with releases to meet quotas. Where they should have double backed to flatten out the roadbumps.
What's surprising was the lead dev for ESO running another 200 employees on another project while this game suffers.
Re: You can rollback a feature of the game. You choose:
It's a no-brainer for me, AwA is the one thing on the list that hurt my playstyle badly, while the other things are of either no interest or no concern to me.
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Re: You can rollback a feature of the game. You choose:
AWA was such a craven gaslighting of the players. The shark jumping moment when players realized that what they wanted would only be used by ZOS to give us they wanted us to have and the manipulatively sold to them as “you asked for this.”
Tha snow job selling Tales of Tribute was the second grossest moment in ESO history. “All the staff love it, are playing it in their free time and organizing tournaments.” It goes live and is so half-baked, malfunctioning and unbalanced that there is no way anyone “loved it”, could probably even finish a game and five years later how many tournaments have you played in?
At least it works now and is minorly enjoyable if you’re idea of a high-fantasy rpg is sitting in a pub.
Tha snow job selling Tales of Tribute was the second grossest moment in ESO history. “All the staff love it, are playing it in their free time and organizing tournaments.” It goes live and is so half-baked, malfunctioning and unbalanced that there is no way anyone “loved it”, could probably even finish a game and five years later how many tournaments have you played in?
At least it works now and is minorly enjoyable if you’re idea of a high-fantasy rpg is sitting in a pub.
Re: Cross Save / Cross Platform / Cross Play coming?
valenwood_vegan wrote: »tomofhyrule wrote: »Are there any news / further informations about that?
Did you see the Reddit AMA?
From ZOS_SusanWe are actively in development on crossplay at this point. There's more levels of detail, but roughly, the plan is that it will be regional (EU/EU and NA/NA) with play spanning all platforms. It's going to take time though - the game wasn't fundamentally architected with this in mind, and there is a lot of design work going into making sure it remains balanced for all when we bring everyone together.
My concern is this; while Crossplay would be a huge benefit to the game, it would need to be paired with a One Tamriel sized update to have any lasting effect.
Adding more players to a game that nobody wants to play, isn’t exactly a solution, and there are a LOT of us who feel like ESO is extremely outdated and have taken breaks from the game.
Yeah this is sort of my issue with the whole crossplay thing. It doesn't add anything to the game in and of itself, and feels rather pointless if the game isn't generating excitement and people don't want to play. That of course doesn't mean they "shouldn't work on crossplay", but I hope it doesn't pull too many resources away from working on and adding to the game and they realize it's not a solution to many of the underlying problems that have driven players away.
Agreed. Crossplay should definitely be done, but if the team is having to choose between “no new stuff, only crossplay” and “new stuff to drum up more interest in the game,” that’s not as good. After all, most PC players (and even a lot of PS) won’t see much of an improvement from crossplay since the populations aren’t in dire straits.
…yet.
That is something I can even say about Subclassing - sure, it let players have fun with swapping skills around (and forced them into hyper specific metas, but that’s a different topic). But it really didn’t add anything - no new skills, no new ways to play, just Oprah coming out with “You get Fatecarver! And you get Fatecarver! Everyone gets Fatecarver!!”
But I really hope the ZOS Crossplay team is considering how many ESO players care about their characters enough to leave the game if they’re forced to lose names. They’re still early in building this, so now is the time to address it.
Re: Cross Save / Cross Platform / Cross Play coming?
tomofhyrule wrote: »Are there any news / further informations about that?
Did you see the Reddit AMA?
From ZOS_SusanWe are actively in development on crossplay at this point. There's more levels of detail, but roughly, the plan is that it will be regional (EU/EU and NA/NA) with play spanning all platforms. It's going to take time though - the game wasn't fundamentally architected with this in mind, and there is a lot of design work going into making sure it remains balanced for all when we bring everyone together.
My concern is this; while Crossplay would be a huge benefit to the game, it would need to be paired with a One Tamriel sized update to have any lasting effect.
Adding more players to a game that nobody wants to play, isn’t exactly a solution, and there are a LOT of us who feel like ESO is extremely outdated and have taken breaks from the game.
Yeah this is sort of my issue with the whole crossplay thing. It doesn't add anything to the game in and of itself, and feels rather pointless if the game isn't generating excitement and people don't want to play. That of course doesn't mean they "shouldn't work on crossplay", but I hope it doesn't pull too many resources away from working on and adding to the game and they realize it's not a solution to many of the underlying problems that have driven players away.
Re: What's up with the outfit design? Pauldrons, tassets, and faulds keep being thrown on everything
I don't understand why we keep getting these when the vast majority have made it very clear that we hate them.
Re: Update 48 Combat/Balancing Changes
ZOS constantly moving the goal posts. Their comments always boil down to:
Can you imagine they were actually honest about update 47 and 48 in April?
"Please buy our 2025 content pass to get access to a chapter you normally would have had access to all at once, this time, we've spread it out over months to hold your invested money and time hostage. Don't expect any major updates in Q3/Q4, we're working on selling you the content pass for 2026."
Here's some examples of the goal posts moving:
My favourite new one they're working on:
- "Be patient, we're working on it"
- "We want to watch how things play out first"
- "We don't want to rock the boat too much outside of major updates"
- "We don't want to rock the boat too much outside of minor updates"
- "This is a minor update, most of our big changes are for the next big update the team is hard at work on"
- "We focussed on bug fixing, so don't expect any large changes to combat" - Proceeds to have the same number of minor fixes, and nothing of substantial issue like Overload Ult dsync or Corpse limit.
Can you imagine they were actually honest about update 47 and 48 in April?
"Please buy our 2025 content pass to get access to a chapter you normally would have had access to all at once, this time, we've spread it out over months to hold your invested money and time hostage. Don't expect any major updates in Q3/Q4, we're working on selling you the content pass for 2026."
Here's some examples of the goal posts moving:
- Hybridization - Implemented aprox. 4 years ago, in the recent AMA, they commented on consumable reworks being scrapped because it would result in nerfs. Uhhh no one cares about consumables, give us major prophecy/savagery and brutality/sorcery on pots, we can wait on the rest.
- Update 35 (13 updates ago, aprox. 3 years 3 months), do I need to even explain this?
- Grave Lord Sacrifice - Update 41 - 0 meaningful changes since, despite claiming it was a work in progress. In fact, it's been relatively nerfed via Flame Skull corpse gen moving to the base skill.
- Update 46 - Subclassing... very obvious buffs required for underwhelming skill lines, 2 updates later, nothing of substance, only nerfs to outliers like Banner/Grim Focus.
My favourite new one they're working on:
- "Vengence campaign is just a test, we've spent years developing brand new skills with unique mechanics that vastly differ from the original counterparts in some ways. We've also invested time in a new UI to accomidate call of duty style loadouts that give access to performant, super engaging passives like "+3% max HP". We're totally not wasting developement time and resources that could be better spent on improving the core base game experience or ignoring subclassing and set balance for 500+ sets. The mode is popular any time it's available, not because it's treated like an event with a golden pursuit, no way. It's just a test, don't worry about BG 2.0 and the 1 sided matches it introduced or the terrible MMR system we implemented. 4v4v4 definitely wouldn't fix that. It's just a test."
